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George Kosch
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I have said this time and time again to our members Victor. Most of these "signups" are fake fake fake. If you look at a typical solo you will find 25 first names in a row with no last name even though the signup form clearly states to enter name. Also, they never click the activation links ever!

Anyways, I'm glad you are seeing this as it's been this way for years.

Posted 6 Nov at 17:36
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George Kosch
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Andy Steele on 22 Dec 2017 at 16:17

Most solo sellers use a tracker, very easy to pause your link and send the traffic elsewhere. Did you expect him to continue sending and still receive the clicks and get a refund?

Thanks for the note on this. I did keep clicking and the udimi link worked fine. It all got to me when 3 optins in a row had their names joined like

Joesmith

Barbarahuges

and about 5 minutes after I questioned it they suddenly came in with spaces. Also, the IP of these "signups" was not in my tracker or the one from Udimi. All other clicks were fine of course.

Anyways, onward we go...

Posted 22 Dec at 18:54
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George Kosch
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One of the reasons I ask is because I purchased a solo. Vendor started it. I did some tracking and was not happy so he "stopped it". Strange because at that moment the clicks stopped and so did the optins. I say strange because when I "send" a solo it goes out to my entire list. I can't just stop it. People would click a link I sent out for at least a few hours even days.

If I hit send it goes to my list.

This guy simply "stopped". So did he login to everyones email box and delete the emails ha ha ha. Caught.

Hmm. So hence my question above.

Posted 21 Dec at 21:33
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George Kosch
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I was told this is not allowed. Seems strange to not be able to get on a list that your own solo will be sent to that you pay for. No?

I would like to purchase a solo, then ask to join the list of the vendor to see my own ad get posted.

Posted 21 Dec at 20:13
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George Kosch
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Use reCaptcha and I assure you it will minimize any issues with fake or bot signups. And be sure to "strain out" the throw out emails like mailinator and about 700 others. Just google around for the list. Use "disposable email providers" and you will find the list at GitHub. Be sure you have a programmer to protect your signup forms with these two safeguards and you will thank me!

Posted 8 Mar at 20:58
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George Kosch
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Thanks for the nice comments. I would also like to add that your webmaster or programmer should check emails that do pass the reCaptcha against a list of "burner emails". Not sure if I am allowed to post the link to the current list but it's here

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wesbos/burner-email-providers/master/emails.txt

I created a program (no api sorry) that checks our signups against this list and my own in house list like Comcast that are simply useless to have on any list. I show a message to use gmail. Enjoy!

Posted 1 Mar at 16:46
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George Kosch
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Always use google's reCaptcha on your signup pages. That will avoid solo sellers using IP/Browser rotators that enter fake emails or even real ones, but from lead sources, into your forms. Many use these robotic tactics to make the buyers think they are getting lots of signups. Once I used reCaptcha it was pretty easy to find out the fakes.

Hope that helps.

Posted 27 Feb at 19:41
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George Kosch
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Sadly the bot traffic gets higher and higher every week it seems. I have tracked over 1200 signups from our members in the last week alone from solo ads. All are from different IPs, different browser signatures and the emails don't bounce. We send activate emails from two separate paid email providers and pixel track opens. Less than 1 percent activate and when asked have no idea how they signed up (not a surprise there even for people that do actually fill out the form).

It's doesn't end there. But that's the start. I tell our Dealers to ONLY book the smallest possible solo order and "test" the results. So sad to see this!
Posted 12 Nov at 21:56
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George Kosch
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I hear you Dimitry and do understand the frustration with this stuff. It will be good in the long run because even now I have a member that must have purchased 500 clicks that is being totally burned. He has over 100 sign ups from same browser signature (exact numbers). What a shame. I am telling them for now to post the review under the feedback system. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Posted 19 May at 14:44
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George Kosch
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I can send you a short video on our database of conversions to show you the duplicated browser signatures and the tracking url your system has so you can nail down these people.
Posted 19 May at 12:48
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George Kosch
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Suggestion. Start tracking the browser that is used to click on solo ad link and look for patterns like same browser used from 10 different IPs. Patterns! Our members purchase about 15 solos a day and after careful scans I see massive abuse. So, track it and filter out someones clicks that repeat the identical "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/536.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/19.0.1084.46 Safari/536.5 Desktop" which I just picked out from 45 clicks in a row! Not likely when compared to "honest" solos.
Posted 19 May at 12:44
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