Swipe question
Swipe question
Gordon Milton
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Hi. Just want to know if a seller can alter my swipe?

Cheers,

Gordon

Posted 26 Jan at 20:59
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Matt Hayward
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A seller cannot alter the link, but they can manually alter the email copy in their autorepsonder.

Posted 27 Jan at 00:29
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Gordon Milton
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Matt Hayward on 27 Jan 2017 at 00:29
A seller cannot alter the link, but they can manually alter the email copy in their autorepsonder.

Hi Matt.

Thanks for replying

That is not good, because the seller could be sending out anything to deliver the clicks. How would I, as the buyer, know what the seller is sending?

Posted 27 Jan at 12:33
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Andy Steele
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Gordon Milton on 27 Jan 2017 at 12:33
Hi Matt.

Thanks for replying

That is not good, because the seller could be sending out anything to deliver the clicks. How would I, as the buyer, know what the seller is sending?

ask the seller to add your email to their list


Posted 27 Jan at 13:40
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Matt Hayward
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Gordon Milton on 27 Jan 2017 at 12:33
Hi Matt.

Thanks for replying

That is not good, because the seller could be sending out anything to deliver the clicks. How would I, as the buyer, know what the seller is sending?

They can't send out anything. They still have to send the link you provide. But yes, they can alter the body of your email. Like Andy said, you can asked to be put on their list. I'm not sure if that's against Udimi terms of service though as you're not suppose to give out your email address outside of Udimi.

Posted 29 Jan at 03:31
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Andy Steele
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Matt Hayward on 29 Jan 2017 at 03:31
They can't send out anything. They still have to send the link you provide. But yes, they can alter the body of your email. Like Andy said, you can asked to be put on their list. I'm not sure if that's against Udimi terms of service though as you're not suppose to give out your email address outside of Udimi.

A way around that would be to ask for a sign up url where you can add yourself to the list.


Posted 29 Jan at 14:18
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Stella Mikraki
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I've asked different sellers to add me to their list and ONLY ONE accepted. I've also repeatedly asked to see the email copy.

Sellers are really negative to such requests. They tell me they don't want to reveal their copy, or their sales funnels or whatever. That is really suspicious to me...

If a seller wants to be completely transparent with what they do I will be their eternal client.

Posted 3 Feb at 17:54
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Gary Hullfish
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I don't see that as an issue here on UDIMI, I have gotten great opt-in rates on every solo I ever purchased, and sign-ups to MY offers, so I get the emails regardless and have to convert them, does it matter how you get them? I think that would be bad business overall for any seller wishing to build a reputation here and scammers will be caught on UDIMI, I have seen many banished forever. There are also ratings for each seller and if they are not sending out proper copy, It would show over time and they would not get business. But its a good question, maybe a loophole can be closed to prevent this?

Posted 4 Feb at 04:32
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Gordon Milton
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Hello Gary. I have had sellers send me a copy of the swype that they wrote for me. They were somewhat nubulous, to say the least.

I can understand that the seller wants to protect their list and prevent increased unsubscribe rates, so they would like the option to adjust the swype. That's on the one hand.

On the other hand, the buyer, me, wants more sales. One of the things I can do is to adjust the swype and test it. But that's a futile exercise if the seller is altering it.

A true analogy of why I would want to adjust the swype, to improve the targeting come from my pre-internet experience when I grew my business using flyers.

When I first started, the flyer was generating a 7% response rate. that was 7 - 10 times more than it should have been. The reason was that under-age individuals were responding. So I adjusted the flyer to discourage them and tried again. I then had some people tentatively responding with a question, "It's not an escort agency is it?" So I had to adjust it again which actually increased the response rate. After several further changes I got it to a point where I was getting an acceptable percentage of the right people responding.

Why was this of such importance? Remember this was pre-internet. I was paying for the printing and delivery of the flyers. I was paying for the answering service and all calls, incoming and outgoing. I was paying for the delivery of the information. I was sending out videos at the time and I had to pay for the retrieving or collecting of those.

Now , someone else is paying for the responses, but I am paying them by way of the clicks. I am also paying for lead-capture pages, sales pages, autoresponders, etc.

The deal between the seller and the buyer is a business arrangement, so what I propose is that, first, I submit my swype to the seller for their approval. If they reject it, then I collaborate with the seller to make adjustments to suit all three parties - the list subscriber, the seller, and myself.

It should also be agreed that the seller includes the buyer (me again) in that particular mailing purely for verification purposes until trust is established.

Posted 7 Feb at 16:24
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Gordon Milton
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Stella Mikraki on 03 Feb 2017 at 17:54
I've asked different sellers to add me to their list and ONLY ONE accepted. I've also repeatedly asked to see the email copy.

Sellers are really negative to such requests. They tell me they don't want to reveal their copy, or their sales funnels or whatever. That is really suspicious to me...

If a seller wants to be completely transparent with what they do I will be their eternal client.

Hi Stella, I have asked the same, and I have got answers that adding you to their list is against the Udimi TOS. If you message the seller your email address, your account will be flagged. Presumably that is like your first warning. The sellers have also said that they only want genuine opt-ins on their list, which makes perfect sense. So, sending you to a lead capture page to opt-in to their list, also defeats that aim. I don't quite know what the answer is, except to find a seller who has the foresight to work with you towards a better future for both. I have found one such seller and we are collaborating to improve the performance of my swipe, as a starting point Hopefully there are other like-minded sellers yet to be discovered.

Posted 9 Feb at 06:38
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Chamel Awari
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i know some sellers have permission from buyer to alter the text. but links are locked n tracked by udimi

Posted 16 Feb at 02:48
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