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Darryl, - Just to add some perspective. You made $97 on a total $500 spend... Sounds terrible, and in your words, it sucks. - However, you have verified 2 things as an absolute. [1] You have buyers on your list [2] Those buyers aren't afraid to pull out the credit card. -- Now, That/Those buyer[s] will continue buying from your emails for a long time to come as long as you build a relationship and take care of them. So, that $97 you have made so for can easily turn into $1000 over time. - So, you have essentially doubled your money on your add spends, but yours comes in little bits for an extended period whereas your ad buys comes with the upfront cost. - So, if I told you i will pay you $1000 for every $500 you loan to me, but payback comes over the course of 9 months... Odds are high that you would hit me with as many $500 bills as you could because you knew as fact that the payoff would come. ... Sir, that's what you're facing when listbuilding with solos..... Most leads are trash, but you do end up with good ones, and those are the ones that over time will make you fully financially self sufficient. .... Just my 2-cents, and you probably got over charged. :-)
Darryl, - Just to add some perspective. You made $97 on a total $500 spend... Sounds terrible, and in your words, it sucks. - However, you have verified 2 things as an absolute. [1] You have buyers on your list [2] Those buyers aren't afraid to pull out the credit card. -- Now, That/Those buyer[s] will continue buying from your emails for a long time to come as long as you build a relationship and take care of them. So, that $97 you have made so for can easily turn into $1000 over time. - So, you have essentially doubled your money on your add spends, but yours comes in little bits for an extended period whereas your ad buys comes with the upfront cost. - So, if I told you i will pay you $1000 for every $500 you loan to me, but payback comes over the course of 9 months... Odds are high that you would hit me with as many $500 bills as you could because you knew as fact that the payoff would come. ... Sir, that's what you're facing when listbuilding with solos..... Most leads are trash, but you do end up with good ones, and those are the ones that over time will make you fully financially self sufficient. .... Just my 2-cents, and you probably got over charged. :-)
The text portion is the anchor text you want to use for your link. ... For example, when you see a link on a webpage or in an email that says "Click Here" ..... The text "Click Here" is the anchor text for the underlying link.
The text portion is the anchor text you want to use for your link. ... For example, when you see a link on a webpage or in an email that says "Click Here" ..... The text "Click Here" is the anchor text for the underlying link.
Kelly it sounds like the seller is asking you to fix your link. - To do that you would go to your "my settings" tab, and from that screen go into your "my swipes" tab. - Once there you can check your link and change it if needed.
Kelly it sounds like the seller is asking you to fix your link. - To do that you would go to your "my settings" tab, and from that screen go into your "my swipes" tab. - Once there you can check your link and change it if needed.
I Bought A Year Of FilterClicks!... Ha! Unfortunately I don't know what it really is or why it will not accept my link.
Can anyone offer some clarity on the matter?
I Bought A Year Of FilterClicks!... Ha! Unfortunately I don't know what it really is or why it will not accept my link.
Can anyone offer some clarity on the matter?
Angelo, I agree with you man. I just made the post to help clarify the situation for people and give them an open perspective to work from.
Jon Mon - The udimi system is still pretty new, and I see them making tweaks and enhancements all of the time. So i'm sure that eventually they will address the rating issue.
Angelo, I agree with you man. I just made the post to help clarify the situation for people and give them an open perspective to work from.
Jon Mon - The udimi system is still pretty new, and I see them making tweaks and enhancements all of the time. So i'm sure that eventually they will address the rating issue.
Seems like an easy fix would be that once a person releases funds for a solo, by default since they didn't dispute, they must be satisfied. So after 48 hours if there is no rating from the buyer, let the system auto-rate the transaction as good.
Seems like an easy fix would be that once a person releases funds for a solo, by default since they didn't dispute, they must be satisfied. So after 48 hours if there is no rating from the buyer, let the system auto-rate the transaction as good.
Ken I believe that that is setup by the seller. I have had the exact opposite thing on my side. I prefer buying large click packages, and I click on a seller who shows 1000 available, yet only get the option of a hundred or two.
Ken I believe that that is setup by the seller. I have had the exact opposite thing on my side. I prefer buying large click packages, and I click on a seller who shows 1000 available, yet only get the option of a hundred or two.
I do banner advertising - Both buying and selling, so I'm happy to see this new feature.
I do banner advertising - Both buying and selling, so I'm happy to see this new feature.
Can you imagine the power if you...
1- Put all overdelivery traffic into a single rotator. 2- Allow buyers to submit bid amount per click (buyer MUST have money in account) 3- Clicks delivered to buyer with highest bid, and goes down the line filling orders until [a] system runs out of clicks [b] New higher bidder enters [c] all bidders orders filled [d] bidder runs out of "committed for click-buy" money
The sellers are credited into their account for each click that is sold - buyer is debited with each click purchased.
Allow sellers to not only push "overdelivery clicks" but full traffic flow. This would allow sellers to sell clicks around the clock in real time rather than hoping someone buys a direct solo ad from them. And allows buyers to start getting clicks immediately rather than waiting for days in some cases.
Yes, the seller is going to get less per click because the clicks really aren't targeted so buyers won't bid much, and yes, buyers will be getting in general, lower quality clicks, however, since "most" people here deal almost exclusively with the IM/Biz op niches, the traffic will at least be loosely targeted.
Just seems like a win/win setup to me.
Can you imagine the power if you...
1- Put all overdelivery traffic into a single rotator. 2- Allow buyers to submit bid amount per click (buyer MUST have money in account) 3- Clicks delivered to buyer with highest bid, and goes down the line filling orders until [a] system runs out of clicks [b] New higher bidder enters [c] all bidders orders filled [d] bidder runs out of "committed for click-buy" money
The sellers are credited into their account for each click that is sold - buyer is debited with each click purchased.
Allow sellers to not only push "overdelivery clicks" but full traffic flow. This would allow sellers to sell clicks around the clock in real time rather than hoping someone buys a direct solo ad from them. And allows buyers to start getting clicks immediately rather than waiting for days in some cases.
Yes, the seller is going to get less per click because the clicks really aren't targeted so buyers won't bid much, and yes, buyers will be getting in general, lower quality clicks, however, since "most" people here deal almost exclusively with the IM/Biz op niches, the traffic will at least be loosely targeted.
Just seems like a win/win setup to me.
Of course you're right Rick - I do it all of the time myself. - I had just never seen the transition so abrupt. But I'm all set now, thanks for the reply.
Of course you're right Rick - I do it all of the time myself. - I had just never seen the transition so abrupt. But I'm all set now, thanks for the reply.
Yes - it looks like the over-delivery control is quite advanced now. :-) ... Thanks for the reply Jeanie!
Yes - it looks like the over-delivery control is quite advanced now. :-) ... Thanks for the reply Jeanie!
Outstanding! I am excited to see the click aftermarket get set into motion.
Outstanding! I am excited to see the click aftermarket get set into motion.
* Additional Clarification - The tactic discussed here is certainly not something that "everyone" uses. This post was intended as a general clarification for specific circumstances. NOT ALL SELLERS USE THIS TACTIC.
* Additional Clarification - The tactic discussed here is certainly not something that "everyone" uses. This post was intended as a general clarification for specific circumstances. NOT ALL SELLERS USE THIS TACTIC.
After looking around here a bit, and seeing some of the questions, comments, and complaints, I decided to give a little clarification for those who want it.
After you have purchased a solo ad and you start getting angry messages from new subscribers demanding that you unsubscribe them immediately and that they never asked you for information in any way, don't panic!
While it really isn't likely that they signed up for your list and then magically forgot about it a few minutes later, it is possible... Unlikely but possible.
In most cases (not always - but often) what has happened is that your solo ad seller is using a software program that basically subscribes people to your list for you.
They load a list of niche specific contacts that they have purchased from a list broker into their software, and then the software subscribes them to your autoresponder, thus filling the solo ad order.
This is often done in a mix. Their real list has some clicks in it, but not enough to fill your order, so they supplement their list with the purchased list in order to complete your order.
Ultimately you end up getting real/actual subscribers as well as people who have never seen your offer before on any level.
Underhanded? Cheating? Unfair? ... Well, that depends on your own perspective.
The reality is that most of the people who end up on your list have really interacted with your niche on some level at some point, and so they really are niche targeted even though they didn't necessarily subscribe to your offer specifically.
So, being specific, you didn't actually get what you paid for because you paid for the solo ad seller to send you real subscribers (clicks) from his real email list, and he hasn't done that entirely.
On the other hand, you now have people subscribed to your list who are interested in your niche (with the exception of the few who complain).
So although they landed on your list under less than perfect circumstances, they still landed on your list, and it has been my own experience that with some relationship building you can convert the same percentage of those subscribers into buyers as you can the ones that were legitimate.
What can you do to protect yourself from this? Nothing. As long as you are buying solo ads, there will always be risk of getting this tactic used on you.
The only way to protect yourself fully is to truly do your own list building using more traditional (and costly) advertising venues.
So, before you send your next complain, or damage your own reputation and your solo ad providers reputation, take a moment to ask yourself this...
Was my true intention to get niche specific subscribers into my list, or was my intention to only get subscribers from this one specific person/seller?
Don't be too quick to answer - Take a moment to put aside your moral standing on the issue and look only at the end result. - Once you have answered that question for yourself, you'll know if you want to continue using solo ads to build your list, or if you want to use the much more expensive and time consuming approach and built it yourself.
*For the record. I am not a solo ad seller, and I do not represent this website, it's owners, or it's affiliates in any capacity. I am simply offering clarification for those who want it.
After looking around here a bit, and seeing some of the questions, comments, and complaints, I decided to give a little clarification for those who want it.
After you have purchased a solo ad and you start getting angry messages from new subscribers demanding that you unsubscribe them immediately and that they never asked you for information in any way, don't panic!
While it really isn't likely that they signed up for your list and then magically forgot about it a few minutes later, it is possible... Unlikely but possible.
In most cases (not always - but often) what has happened is that your solo ad seller is using a software program that basically subscribes people to your list for you.
They load a list of niche specific contacts that they have purchased from a list broker into their software, and then the software subscribes them to your autoresponder, thus filling the solo ad order.
This is often done in a mix. Their real list has some clicks in it, but not enough to fill your order, so they supplement their list with the purchased list in order to complete your order.
Ultimately you end up getting real/actual subscribers as well as people who have never seen your offer before on any level.
Underhanded? Cheating? Unfair? ... Well, that depends on your own perspective.
The reality is that most of the people who end up on your list have really interacted with your niche on some level at some point, and so they really are niche targeted even though they didn't necessarily subscribe to your offer specifically.
So, being specific, you didn't actually get what you paid for because you paid for the solo ad seller to send you real subscribers (clicks) from his real email list, and he hasn't done that entirely.
On the other hand, you now have people subscribed to your list who are interested in your niche (with the exception of the few who complain).
So although they landed on your list under less than perfect circumstances, they still landed on your list, and it has been my own experience that with some relationship building you can convert the same percentage of those subscribers into buyers as you can the ones that were legitimate.
What can you do to protect yourself from this? Nothing. As long as you are buying solo ads, there will always be risk of getting this tactic used on you.
The only way to protect yourself fully is to truly do your own list building using more traditional (and costly) advertising venues.
So, before you send your next complain, or damage your own reputation and your solo ad providers reputation, take a moment to ask yourself this...
Was my true intention to get niche specific subscribers into my list, or was my intention to only get subscribers from this one specific person/seller?
Don't be too quick to answer - Take a moment to put aside your moral standing on the issue and look only at the end result. - Once you have answered that question for yourself, you'll know if you want to continue using solo ads to build your list, or if you want to use the much more expensive and time consuming approach and built it yourself.
*For the record. I am not a solo ad seller, and I do not represent this website, it's owners, or it's affiliates in any capacity. I am simply offering clarification for those who want it.
I'm new here so this is just a guess, but have you bought/sold solo's?... The difference in amounts may be due to funds in escrow.
I'm new here so this is just a guess, but have you bought/sold solo's?... The difference in amounts may be due to funds in escrow.
Being a long-time full time internet marketer I have done email marketing extensively for many years.
It has always been my experience that when you send out a mailing, you'll have stragglers.... People who see your message but are busy at the moment so they come back to it a few hours later, open it and click through.
However, what I am seeing here is that once the seller stops sending traffic, everything stops. Not a single opt-in or visit increase once the sellers stops sending for the day.
I'm not understanding how that is possible and need clarification since I likely do not understand the process here.
Even after a solo ad seller stops mailing, there should realistically be at least some people who received that didn't read it right away and waited until a few hours later, which would mean that your visitor count and optins would continue for a while even after the solo provider stopped mailing.
So, am I missing something here? - Is there something in place that prevents the email recipient from clicking through the message a few hours after it has been delivered?
Being a long-time full time internet marketer I have done email marketing extensively for many years.
It has always been my experience that when you send out a mailing, you'll have stragglers.... People who see your message but are busy at the moment so they come back to it a few hours later, open it and click through.
However, what I am seeing here is that once the seller stops sending traffic, everything stops. Not a single opt-in or visit increase once the sellers stops sending for the day.
I'm not understanding how that is possible and need clarification since I likely do not understand the process here.
Even after a solo ad seller stops mailing, there should realistically be at least some people who received that didn't read it right away and waited until a few hours later, which would mean that your visitor count and optins would continue for a while even after the solo provider stopped mailing.
So, am I missing something here? - Is there something in place that prevents the email recipient from clicking through the message a few hours after it has been delivered?
This is a great optional additional monetization model. Beautiful way for sellers to maximize unused inventory, and buyers to get a steady flow of traffic even if it isn't 100% targeted.
I would go so far as to allow sellers to not only use this for over delivery, but also as an unused daily inventory clearing house.
As a buyer I would certainly set a daily budget to automatically spend and receive a constant daily flow of these after market clicks.
This is a great optional additional monetization model. Beautiful way for sellers to maximize unused inventory, and buyers to get a steady flow of traffic even if it isn't 100% targeted.
I would go so far as to allow sellers to not only use this for over delivery, but also as an unused daily inventory clearing house.
As a buyer I would certainly set a daily budget to automatically spend and receive a constant daily flow of these after market clicks.