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The truth is that even when using 100% Safe Swap traffic many of us are experiencing high filter rates.
I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones.
So here is what I propose.
Let sellers decide which filtering methods to offer. Then let them charge an appropriate markup.
For example:
None - All clicks but no duplicate IPs
Light - None + proxy traffic WHEN proxy traffic is greater then 15% of solo.
Medium - Light + All Proxy Traffic
Extreme - Spamhaus listed IPs, Fake PC, Robots and all other flags.
This would give all buyers and seller more traffic options and may even lead to overall higher average price per click here on Udimi. People like options :)
What do you think?
The truth is that even when using 100% Safe Swap traffic many of us are experiencing high filter rates.
I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones.
So here is what I propose.
Let sellers decide which filtering methods to offer. Then let them charge an appropriate markup.
For example:
None - All clicks but no duplicate IPs
Light - None + proxy traffic WHEN proxy traffic is greater then 15% of solo.
Medium - Light + All Proxy Traffic
Extreme - Spamhaus listed IPs, Fake PC, Robots and all other flags.
This would give all buyers and seller more traffic options and may even lead to overall higher average price per click here on Udimi. People like options :)
What do you think?
added laterAnd by the way there are some very legit reasons that one would want to use unfiltered traffic. 1. To split test under normal traffic conditions. 2. To boost Alexa rankings at an affordable price 3. To improve bounce rate for SEO at an affordable price 4. Because the traffic performs better then filtered. The assumption has been made here that filtered converts higher then unfiltered. I don't know of that really is true. I sell unfiltered on my website and get tons of sales reported back.
added laterYou could also have a Extreme Filtered T1 option.
"I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones"
Something just does not seem right filtered clicks seem to be extremely high. I'm not sure what has changed but when I first started it was not even close to as high as it is now.
"I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones"
Something just does not seem right filtered clicks seem to be extremely high. I'm not sure what has changed but when I first started it was not even close to as high as it is now.
My point is more legit people especially here in the USA are using PROXY.
My point is more legit people especially here in the USA are using PROXY.
Uncle D are you using the Zen list? The combo one?
My guess is that Spamhaus penalizes IPs that are in a DHCP pool. It doesn't distinguish. So when you get a spammer rotating IPs on a DSL line or even LTE they penalize that IP but the spammer knows to drop it and get a new one.
So a legit person picks the IP up and has no clue that its on Real Time Blackhole lists.
Based on that
Uncle D are you using the Zen list? The combo one?
My guess is that Spamhaus penalizes IPs that are in a DHCP pool. It doesn't distinguish. So when you get a spammer rotating IPs on a DSL line or even LTE they penalize that IP but the spammer knows to drop it and get a new one.
So a legit person picks the IP up and has no clue that its on Real Time Blackhole lists.
Based on that
All traffic still lands on buyer's site and user get benefits from all 4 points. In addition, all traffic, which filter doesn't like, is listed on "filtered" page and buyer can see it.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
All traffic still lands on buyer's site and user get benefits from all 4 points. In addition, all traffic, which filter doesn't like, is listed on "filtered" page and buyer can see it.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
"Udimi. Buyer's paradise" - a good slogan. Thanks, Rick
By the way, Heather's idea about filter levels is a good idea. I'll discuss it with techs ASAP. This way we can give sellers an option to deliver shit traffic (in my humble opinion) and still get paid for it, if buyer is so generous.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
"Udimi. Buyer's paradise" - a good slogan. Thanks, Rick
By the way, Heather's idea about filter levels is a good idea. I'll discuss it with techs ASAP. This way we can give sellers an option to deliver shit traffic (in my humble opinion) and still get paid for it, if buyer is so generous.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
Yes there are people that want really cheap shit traffic! LOL I am glad to hear we will be able to eventually give it to them.
You should make all sellers enter a base rate for totally unfiltered clicks.
Then allow them to decide what level of filtering to participate in and what the markup should be.
"Udidmi. Solo Buyer's Paradise" - Better slogan ;)
Thanks for listening Uncle D. It shows how dedicated you are to everyone's success.
- Heather
Yes there are people that want really cheap shit traffic! LOL I am glad to hear we will be able to eventually give it to them.
You should make all sellers enter a base rate for totally unfiltered clicks.
Then allow them to decide what level of filtering to participate in and what the markup should be.
"Udidmi. Solo Buyer's Paradise" - Better slogan ;)
Thanks for listening Uncle D. It shows how dedicated you are to everyone's success.
- Heather
Any updates on this?
Thanks,
-Heather
Any updates on this?
Thanks,
-Heather
I hope even as a noob, I contribute something useful to this discussion.
The number of terms with which I am not familiar in Heather's brief 4 points as they relate to one another comes to a total of 8 for me -- yes I'm a genuine noob.
So I hope that if you choose to implement a plan like this, that you provide a simple explanation for what each of the levels of filtering actually accomplishes that is beneficial to the sellers, the buyers, and Udimi.
Cheers Friends,
Phil Berkun
The Grumpiest Old Marketer on the Internets
I hope even as a noob, I contribute something useful to this discussion.
The number of terms with which I am not familiar in Heather's brief 4 points as they relate to one another comes to a total of 8 for me -- yes I'm a genuine noob.
So I hope that if you choose to implement a plan like this, that you provide a simple explanation for what each of the levels of filtering actually accomplishes that is beneficial to the sellers, the buyers, and Udimi.
Cheers Friends,
Phil Berkun
The Grumpiest Old Marketer on the Internets
Last month I cleaned with both Towerdata and Impressionwise and it has not moved the needle too much in terms of filtering.
But I guess the good news is that something is potentially in the works. 3 cheers for that!
Last month I cleaned with both Towerdata and Impressionwise and it has not moved the needle too much in terms of filtering.
But I guess the good news is that something is potentially in the works. 3 cheers for that!
Don't focus on terminology too much as that was to mainly get my point across at a higher level to Udimi.
The basic idea is to allow buyers to purchase traffic from seller much like they would purchase an airplane ticket.
First Class
Business Class
Coach Plus
Coach
They all get you to the same destination in the end but have different levels of comfort and perks while the flight is in process.
Will there be a movie on this flight?
Don't focus on terminology too much as that was to mainly get my point across at a higher level to Udimi.
The basic idea is to allow buyers to purchase traffic from seller much like they would purchase an airplane ticket.
First Class
Business Class
Coach Plus
Coach
They all get you to the same destination in the end but have different levels of comfort and perks while the flight is in process.
Will there be a movie on this flight?