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Spam Filter Revisited - Suggestion For IMPROVEMENT!
Uncle D,
The truth is that even when using 100% Safe Swap traffic many of us are experiencing high filter rates.
I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones.
So here is what I propose.
Let sellers decide which filtering methods to offer. Then let them charge an appropriate markup.
For example:
None - All clicks but no duplicate IPs Light - None + proxy traffic WHEN proxy traffic is greater then 15% of solo. Medium - Light + All Proxy Traffic Extreme - Spamhaus listed IPs, Fake PC, Robots and all other flags.
This would give all buyers and seller more traffic options and may even lead to overall higher average price per click here on Udimi. People like options :)
What do you think?
Uncle D,
The truth is that even when using 100% Safe Swap traffic many of us are experiencing high filter rates.
I believe the filter in it's current format is removing too many potentially good clicks in an effort to remove 100% of the bad ones.
So here is what I propose.
Let sellers decide which filtering methods to offer. Then let them charge an appropriate markup.
For example:
None - All clicks but no duplicate IPs Light - None + proxy traffic WHEN proxy traffic is greater then 15% of solo. Medium - Light + All Proxy Traffic Extreme - Spamhaus listed IPs, Fake PC, Robots and all other flags.
This would give all buyers and seller more traffic options and may even lead to overall higher average price per click here on Udimi. People like options :)
What do you think?
I agree, it is out of control and if this is not fixed soon- many will leave UDIMI. I had my list cleaned w/ impressionwise and I still get about 30-40% filtered on a 100 click solo. The process is broken and needs to be fixed asap/ many people are ready to walk because of this issue. What was profit is now turning into a deficit.
I agree, it is out of control and if this is not fixed soon- many will leave UDIMI. I had my list cleaned w/ impressionwise and I still get about 30-40% filtered on a 100 click solo. The process is broken and needs to be fixed asap/ many people are ready to walk because of this issue. What was profit is now turning into a deficit.
This is a low priority feature, which will be completed in the near future, but not very fast, so stay tuned
This is a low priority feature, which will be completed in the near future, but not very fast, so stay tuned
Heather's idea certainly has merit. I hope even as a noob, I contribute something useful to this discussion. The number of terms with which I am not familiar in Heather's brief 4 points as they relate to one another comes to a total of 8 for me -- yes I'm a genuine noob. So I hope that if you choose to implement a plan like this, that you provide a simple explanation for what each of the levels of filtering actually accomplishes that is beneficial to the sellers, the buyers, and Udimi. Cheers Friends, Phil Berkun The Grumpiest Old Marketer on the Internets
Heather's idea certainly has merit. I hope even as a noob, I contribute something useful to this discussion. The number of terms with which I am not familiar in Heather's brief 4 points as they relate to one another comes to a total of 8 for me -- yes I'm a genuine noob. So I hope that if you choose to implement a plan like this, that you provide a simple explanation for what each of the levels of filtering actually accomplishes that is beneficial to the sellers, the buyers, and Udimi. Cheers Friends, Phil Berkun The Grumpiest Old Marketer on the Internets
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Last month I cleaned with both Towerdata and Impressionwise and it has not moved the needle too much in terms of filtering.
But I guess the good news is that something is potentially in the works. 3 cheers for that!
Last month I cleaned with both Towerdata and Impressionwise and it has not moved the needle too much in terms of filtering.
But I guess the good news is that something is potentially in the works. 3 cheers for that!
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Don't focus on terminology too much as that was to mainly get my point across at a higher level to Udimi.
The basic idea is to allow buyers to purchase traffic from seller much like they would purchase an airplane ticket.
First Class Business Class Coach Plus Coach
They all get you to the same destination in the end but have different levels of comfort and perks while the flight is in process.
Will there be a movie on this flight?
Don't focus on terminology too much as that was to mainly get my point across at a higher level to Udimi.
The basic idea is to allow buyers to purchase traffic from seller much like they would purchase an airplane ticket.
First Class Business Class Coach Plus Coach
They all get you to the same destination in the end but have different levels of comfort and perks while the flight is in process.
Will there be a movie on this flight?
This is a low priority feature- are you kidding me. We have to send almost 1/3 more clicks because the tracking is not working. This should be High Priority! I cannot believe this is what you tell your long time members. Everyone is getting effected here.
This is a low priority feature- are you kidding me. We have to send almost 1/3 more clicks because the tracking is not working. This should be High Priority! I cannot believe this is what you tell your long time members. Everyone is getting effected here.
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Totally Agreed!
Totally Agreed!
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Heather Alessandra: Now I understand. Thank you for taking the time to make this so clear even a novice can hear you loud and clear. When you put it this way, it sounds like a very positive idea. Thanx and Cheers!
Heather Alessandra: Now I understand. Thank you for taking the time to make this so clear even a novice can hear you loud and clear. When you put it this way, it sounds like a very positive idea. Thanx and Cheers!
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Your welcome :)
Your welcome :)
after meeting with techs, we found a way to do this change without long server downtime and without any click loss.
Customers will be able to disable any filter they don't want to be applied to traffic. This way sellers get easier filter and buyers will still control everything.
I believe next month it will be live.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
after meeting with techs, we found a way to do this change without long server downtime and without any click loss.
Customers will be able to disable any filter they don't want to be applied to traffic. This way sellers get easier filter and buyers will still control everything.
I believe next month it will be live.
Best, Uncle Dimitry.
So Uncle D,
Will be able to decide which filtering levels to offer? Also, will we be able to charge an appropriate markup for the filtered traffic?
Will we I meant to say..
So Uncle D,
Will be able to decide which filtering levels to offer? Also, will we be able to charge an appropriate markup for the filtered traffic?
Will we I meant to say..
Hey Heather, from what I understood from reading uncles message. The buyer will decide which filters they want applied to the traffic. Therefore if the buyers wants to apply all the filters, which I don't see why they wouldn't if it doesn't cost them anymore money, we, the sellers will still be in the same place as before.
Hey Heather, from what I understood from reading uncles message. The buyer will decide which filters they want applied to the traffic. Therefore if the buyers wants to apply all the filters, which I don't see why they wouldn't if it doesn't cost them anymore money, we, the sellers will still be in the same place as before.
Yes, I would like to see the filter incentivized. And I would like buyers to be able to decide what levels of filtering to offer. Not just an on and off switch. Why would anyone choose that.
Sorry not buyers, I MEAN SELLERS
Yes, I would like to see the filter incentivized. And I would like buyers to be able to decide what levels of filtering to offer. Not just an on and off switch. Why would anyone choose that.
Sorry not buyers, I MEAN SELLERS
That's awesome, but I think uncle was talking about giving the buyers the option to choose the filter level not the seller.
That's awesome, but I think uncle was talking about giving the buyers the option to choose the filter level not the seller.
yes, only buyers will control the filter
yes, only buyers will control the filter
That is fine if buyers choose, but will have have the ability to add a markup if they choose it?
will we
That is fine if buyers choose, but will have have the ability to add a markup if they choose it?
will we
Yes, sure. You'll see what kind of traffic buyer is expecting from you
Yes, sure. You'll see what kind of traffic buyer is expecting from you
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Can you explain functionally how that will work? From an order flow perspective? Will there be something in Settings, where we can set those markups? And is it just filter on or off? Or are there a couple filter levels like I suggested?
Can you explain functionally how that will work? From an order flow perspective? Will there be something in Settings, where we can set those markups? And is it just filter on or off? Or are there a couple filter levels like I suggested?
I'd say keep the filter as is to filter out the real vendors from the scammers.
The #1 reason I use this site is because it's regulated and removes garbage.
It creates a trusting environment within the community with trusted sellers.
I'd say keep the filter as is to filter out the real vendors from the scammers.
The #1 reason I use this site is because it's regulated and removes garbage.
It creates a trusting environment within the community with trusted sellers.
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You obviously did not read the thread. Udimi is keeping the filter. But a premium per click needs to placed on it's use. That's all.
If Buyers want to use it, great then they pay a premium price. If not then they pay the standard price.
My list, unfiltered produces sales all day long and I shouldn't have to do double the work for a solo here in Udimi and not be appropriately compensated for it.
You obviously did not read the thread. Udimi is keeping the filter. But a premium per click needs to placed on it's use. That's all.
If Buyers want to use it, great then they pay a premium price. If not then they pay the standard price.
My list, unfiltered produces sales all day long and I shouldn't have to do double the work for a solo here in Udimi and not be appropriately compensated for it.