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Now if she does not mind - take Heather for an example
Heather sells say 10000+ clicks in solos a month
Out of blue Heather is told she is not good enough to be listed in Prime Market evenwith a brilliant record
So Heather now loses her 10000+ clicks as buyers directed to Prime
Now even if Heather did qualify , pay Udimi up front $800 before taking an order
Heather also needs to pay all PayPal fees , deal with all disputes chargebacks etc
Where is the benefits to Heather?
Please advise
Now if she does not mind - take Heather for an example
Heather sells say 10000+ clicks in solos a month
Out of blue Heather is told she is not good enough to be listed in Prime Market evenwith a brilliant record
So Heather now loses her 10000+ clicks as buyers directed to Prime
Now even if Heather did qualify , pay Udimi up front $800 before taking an order
Heather also needs to pay all PayPal fees , deal with all disputes chargebacks etc
Where is the benefits to Heather?
Please advise
I think we need to see what the prime market is once it goes live. Looks like there are some interesting aspects to it.
Anyway, I was just trying to apply to find out myself. The system rejected me cause my average acceptance is 3 hours vs 2 hour requirement. However, Uncle D said he will make some adjustments there.
I think we need to see what the prime market is once it goes live. Looks like there are some interesting aspects to it.
Anyway, I was just trying to apply to find out myself. The system rejected me cause my average acceptance is 3 hours vs 2 hour requirement. However, Uncle D said he will make some adjustments there.
I remember a thread at Safe-Swaps, where people said NO WAY after Uncle decided to switch to the current payment system. Now he wants to go back and you still say "no way"
I remember a thread at Safe-Swaps, where people said NO WAY after Uncle decided to switch to the current payment system. Now he wants to go back and you still say "no way"
None of us are in any real position to judge the prime market as it is not even live yet.
But I think what Tommy's concern is the mention of upfront fees. Rather then pay for performance.
On Safe-Swaps there were no upfront fees only your monthly membership.
But I think what Tommy's concern is the mention of upfront fees. Rather then pay for performance.
On Safe-Swaps there were no upfront fees only your monthly membership.
added laterAt the end of the day I am glad Udimi is trying new experiments. We will see what happens.
Not quite Sir, the prime will only be open to 50 people the rest are left to crash and burn as Udimi filters 80+ of all buyers to Prime only
It is not as simple as getting payments direct
To continue selling in Prime Udimi is asking you pay them up front for all clicks
So for me if I qualified could be $160-$240 a month up front
For larger sellers they need to pay $800-$1200 a month up front if over 10000 clicks payable every month????
I am unsure as I stated above how it benefits the current established sellers who currently generate these levels of orders
It is NOT about receiving money direct but sellers having to pay a lot of money upfront on a monthly basis and all risk now falls to seller -
I am looking for a better explanation and why if not in the 50 why it may be that sellers May be left to suffer a severve reduction in orders as Udimi will send buyers towards the 50 Prime sellers only so 20% to be shared amongst rest of sellers does not leave much in way of orders etc.
Not quite Sir, the prime will only be open to 50 people the rest are left to crash and burn as Udimi filters 80+ of all buyers to Prime only
It is not as simple as getting payments direct
To continue selling in Prime Udimi is asking you pay them up front for all clicks
So for me if I qualified could be $160-$240 a month up front
For larger sellers they need to pay $800-$1200 a month up front if over 10000 clicks payable every month????
I am unsure as I stated above how it benefits the current established sellers who currently generate these levels of orders
It is NOT about receiving money direct but sellers having to pay a lot of money upfront on a monthly basis and all risk now falls to seller -
I am looking for a better explanation and why if not in the 50 why it may be that sellers May be left to suffer a severve reduction in orders as Udimi will send buyers towards the 50 Prime sellers only so 20% to be shared amongst rest of sellers does not leave much in way of orders etc.
So Prime Market is limited to 50 sellers.
This basically means that 50 sells will get 80% of all orders placed at Udimi.
What does that mean in simple terms?
It means that if you are not lucky enough to be one of the 50 "Prime Market" sellers you might as well not bother even selling solos here because you won't get too many orders (if any). That is, of course, unless you are willing to pony up more money to list a solo deal. And even then, good luck...
I have come to the realization that it doesn't matter what I or any of the other members say. Once they get it in their head to institute something it doesn't matter what the members say they are going to do it anyway.
So Prime Market is limited to 50 sellers.
This basically means that 50 sells will get 80% of all orders placed at Udimi.
What does that mean in simple terms?
It means that if you are not lucky enough to be one of the 50 "Prime Market" sellers you might as well not bother even selling solos here because you won't get too many orders (if any). That is, of course, unless you are willing to pony up more money to list a solo deal. And even then, good luck...
I have come to the realization that it doesn't matter what I or any of the other members say. Once they get it in their head to institute something it doesn't matter what the members say they are going to do it anyway.
added laterWhat a shame. They are tearing this site down brick by brick...
added laterI qualify to be one of the 50 sellers and I don't want anything to do with it.
I hear ya. Personally I am just going to wait to see what it is and what it would mean for my order/work flow.
"I have come to the realization that it doesn't matter what I or any of the other members say. Once they get it in their head to institute something it doesn't matter what the members say they are going to do it anyway." ... Nah I don't think so.
They are entrepreneurial so they are going to experiment. I give them credit for trying new stuff. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
My husband and I were watching a Netflix Original Series last night called "Narcos." It was about the life of Pablo Escabar.
In it Pablo said "Geniuses are always labeled as crazy." I think that sort of applies here.
And by the way if you get a chance to check out that series it is amazing! Really well done.
I hear ya. Personally I am just going to wait to see what it is and what it would mean for my order/work flow.
"I have come to the realization that it doesn't matter what I or any of the other members say. Once they get it in their head to institute something it doesn't matter what the members say they are going to do it anyway." ... Nah I don't think so.
They are entrepreneurial so they are going to experiment. I give them credit for trying new stuff. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
My husband and I were watching a Netflix Original Series last night called "Narcos." It was about the life of Pablo Escabar.
In it Pablo said "Geniuses are always labeled as crazy." I think that sort of applies here.
And by the way if you get a chance to check out that series it is amazing! Really well done.
LOL I was in the middle of episode 8 of Narcos as I was reading your post! Awesome series. Javier Pena and Steve Murphy are actually the real names of the DEA agents involved. They changed some of the names though. For instance, Colonel Carrillo is based on the real Colonel Hugo Martinez, who as the commander of the actual Search Bloc.
If you want to watch something really cool, the real Murphy and Pena appear in this documentary called "King of Coke:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp4KkJ12aPQ
Check it out. Really good.
LOL I was in the middle of episode 8 of Narcos as I was reading your post! Awesome series. Javier Pena and Steve Murphy are actually the real names of the DEA agents involved. They changed some of the names though. For instance, Colonel Carrillo is based on the real Colonel Hugo Martinez, who as the commander of the actual Search Bloc.
If you want to watch something really cool, the real Murphy and Pena appear in this documentary called "King of Coke:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp4KkJ12aPQ
Check it out. Really good.
Thanks for the insight and the link I will have to go check it out.
Yeah we binge watched the whole season this weekend. It was that good!
Thanks for the insight and the link I will have to go check it out.
Yeah we binge watched the whole season this weekend. It was that good!
Got an email about Shakers -- one of the top sellers sold about 30000 clicks in August so if that is every month then needs to pay Udimi up front --- $2400 to be in Prime or lose all your orders as not listed in Prime?
On top of that you pay all the PayPal Fees deal with everything so what does Udimi do for their $2500?
I ask again how does this benefit the seller shelling out $28,800 Annually just on Prime Fees never mind all other overheads to sell on Udimi ?
I just can't see the benefits given the filters are overzealous etc and shelling out crazy money it seems to me, unless it can be explained properly the benefits etc
Anyone?
Got an email about Shakers -- one of the top sellers sold about 30000 clicks in August so if that is every month then needs to pay Udimi up front --- $2400 to be in Prime or lose all your orders as not listed in Prime?
On top of that you pay all the PayPal Fees deal with everything so what does Udimi do for their $2500?
I ask again how does this benefit the seller shelling out $28,800 Annually just on Prime Fees never mind all other overheads to sell on Udimi ?
I just can't see the benefits given the filters are overzealous etc and shelling out crazy money it seems to me, unless it can be explained properly the benefits etc
Anyone?
The seller, who sold 30K clicks earned up to $90 000. So, investment of $28 800 earns $1 080 000.
If this deal is not good enough for you, no problem, just skip it.
The seller, who sold 30K clicks earned up to $90 000. So, investment of $28 800 earns $1 080 000.
If this deal is not good enough for you, no problem, just skip it.
This responsiveness requirement as well is flawed as someone contacts you from somewhere in the World while you are sleeping at night and take 10 hours to respond so not considered responsive and does everyone know about how to rate this?
Thanks for the response all the same :)
This responsiveness requirement as well is flawed as someone contacts you from somewhere in the World while you are sleeping at night and take 10 hours to respond so not considered responsive and does everyone know about how to rate this?
Thanks for the response all the same :)
added laterEdit: Uncle D, don't turn this place into another Ebay. Seriously. Making vendors jump through hoops to stay within the threshold of unrealistically tight metric requirements is not an enjoyable process and people will resent it over time.
What I think should be raised is the number of positive feedbacks. I don't think 10 feedbacks is really enough to tell overall long term quality. 100+ might be a better level.
What I think should be raised is the number of positive feedbacks. I don't think 10 feedbacks is really enough to tell overall long term quality. 100+ might be a better level.
added later@Uncle Dimitry seems that the 99.9% Feedback I have is stopping me having a look at Prime as I meet the other 6 requirements? Do I check with Support ?
A workaround for this is to apply a rule whereby the 2% only becomes 'active' when a seller has sold over a certain number of solos. For those below that number you would apply a more sensible number (not a percentage but an ACTUAL number) which doesn't eliminate sellers starting out that have below, say 100 feedbacks. 2% is still pretty tight on low volume orders, but once you have several hundred it becomes a non-issue for anyone that is delivering solos as they should be.
I appreciate this does not really apply to a premium marketplace where vendors are selling a lot of solos, but if a rule like this would be applied across the board, that's more like how it should be. Did I ever mention I am really NOT a fan of tight metrics if you don't have an opportunity to address the issue FIRST.
This 100% feedback thing is a case in point. You can have someone with 99.5% positive feedback regarded as a below par vendor, which in the real world is quite the most ridiculous thing any reasonable person has ever heard. Algorithms though, suggest it's sensible. This is where automation and overly vigilant metrics make using a platform a pain in the proverbials.
A workaround for this is to apply a rule whereby the 2% only becomes 'active' when a seller has sold over a certain number of solos. For those below that number you would apply a more sensible number (not a percentage but an ACTUAL number) which doesn't eliminate sellers starting out that have below, say 100 feedbacks. 2% is still pretty tight on low volume orders, but once you have several hundred it becomes a non-issue for anyone that is delivering solos as they should be.
I appreciate this does not really apply to a premium marketplace where vendors are selling a lot of solos, but if a rule like this would be applied across the board, that's more like how it should be. Did I ever mention I am really NOT a fan of tight metrics if you don't have an opportunity to address the issue FIRST.
This 100% feedback thing is a case in point. You can have someone with 99.5% positive feedback regarded as a below par vendor, which in the real world is quite the most ridiculous thing any reasonable person has ever heard. Algorithms though, suggest it's sensible. This is where automation and overly vigilant metrics make using a platform a pain in the proverbials.
Don't you find it interesting that the sellers who are commenting on this subject all have feedback in excess of 100+ comments.
At least to me that shows a certain level of dedication to this business and vote of confidence by your peers..
So personally I believe a better criteria for inclusion would be 100+ feedbacks with a 2% negative max.
Say what you want about the math but Amazon is now more valuable Walmart. And I know for a fact Amazon doesn't pick arbitrary values. Most of what they do is data driven so I am sure that number is well tested against buyer confidence, impulse and satisfaction.
Don't you find it interesting that the sellers who are commenting on this subject all have feedback in excess of 100+ comments.
At least to me that shows a certain level of dedication to this business and vote of confidence by your peers..
So personally I believe a better criteria for inclusion would be 100+ feedbacks with a 2% negative max.
Say what you want about the math but Amazon is now more valuable Walmart. And I know for a fact Amazon doesn't pick arbitrary values. Most of what they do is data driven so I am sure that number is well tested against buyer confidence, impulse and satisfaction.