Forum Solo ads A better and objective rating

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Hello Everybody,

I opened a support ticket but maybe I should have posted it here. Sorry for the duplicate.

What do you guys think?

It would be nice to have a more objective rating system. Phrases like "Good solo", "Good solo will do again", "great solo thanks" are not very helpful. Statistics speak for themselves.

Would it be good to make mandatory to add data like:

Clicks delivered:____ Opt-ins:____ Sales:____

What do you all think?

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I agree with heather and dean great points

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Wow. Thank you very much Alessandra for sharing your knowledge. I have not heard about the "Tools Rock" people. I'm learning a lot with all your comments. Thanks everybody for sharing your views with me.

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Francisco Fernandez
Francisco Fernandez on 13 Dec 2014 at 13:54

Dean thanks for your advice. I agree. Testing is the way to go. It involves investing, but it will pay off in the long run. To add to the discussion, I also think that good communication with the seller is important. Although Rick said he does not like some questions that buyers ask, it's important

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My guess is that Rick might be referring to the "Tools Rock" people. It's a company that sends their people to Udimi but gives them a list of about a dozen MOSTLY IRRELEVANT unanswerable questions to ask sellers. I tend not to work with those people.

Now, I don't mind answering intelligent questions by buyers. An by in large most questions I get are pretty reasonable.

"This recycling of lists hurts the quality of leads." - Based on my testing this is not true. In fact I find some of the most responsive, profitable traffic I get is from quality Adswaps.

In fact there is the "Rule of 7" which states in marketing that a buyer must come in contact with a product at least 7 times before they will make a purchase. I think what many buyers experience is the lack of touch, trust and then try to write that off as poor traffic.

Now, what I have seen destroy a list is when a seller hammers it with poor quality swipes. When they are all hype and garbage like "1000% Unique and 10000% New" people just start becoming less interested in opening. You can't treat your list like a bunch of mindless idiots.

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Dean thanks for your advice. I agree. Testing is the way to go. It involves investing, but it will pay off in the long run. To add to the discussion, I also think that good communication with the seller is important. Although Rick said he does not like some questions that buyers ask, it's important to know things about the seller's list. I've seen sellers buying lists from other sellers within UDIMI. This recycling of lists hurts the quality of leads. In the end the buyer is sending offers to the same people that belong to two different lists. As far as the seller giving advice to the buyer, I think is godd. We are all here to help each other. Networking with people and making friends is important in this business.

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With my respect to all opinions here,but I see if the seller will face the buyer's rating and judgement,why doesn't the seller offer his advice if there is a need for that?

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Overall I disagree that a seller "Should" be giving advice on how to improve a page/offer, Mohamed (and I'm very pro customer service). The vendors job is to deliver targeted traffic to the customers offer/landing page. Really it's not to offer coaching on how to improve the page itself, that's down to the customer to tweak and test until they are happy with how it is converting. Generally speaking, you should have an idea of how your offer is converting on average, prior to purchasing traffic OR you should be using solos as a means to test out the offer itself and tweak/split test it as required.

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The right thing to do Francisco , is to test it yourself. What kind of lists works well with your offer and what doesn't work. But I fully agree with Aj that sellers should give feedback and advice on how to improve the buyers' capture page and offer ,and also we all responsible for making this experience pleasing.

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After reading all the replies and Heathers point, having to agree with Heather. Very valid points were stated that turned my vote No!

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I agree with Heather. Most of the time people are trying to promote an offer that is just too saturated and they expect sales when subscribers are sick of seeing these offers. The only thing you can do as a seller is tell them what to expect when promoting such an offer. Why should the seller have to suffer by receiving a bad rating when it had nothing to do with the quality of their traffic? It's just silly. Buyers should take responsibility for the offers they want to promote and communicate with sellers to increase their chances of receiving a great service. Sellers should give feedback and advice on how to improve the buyers capture page and offer. We should all be trying to make this experience pleasing.

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Which costs money but what doesn't, consider it like your testing a product to see if you like it if not you go to the next its the same as solo sellers within reason... I'll be honest see too many person here in UDIMI asking for heads up on person list what your daily leads intake what leads how you get them um do you mail every day what else these sort of question are annoying as far as I'm considered will they like my offer when its a freebie etc and has your list seen it before... hmm... Just saying lol...

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FWIW I agree with Heather, there are too many variables at the other end to make those kind of stats have any real worth. Keeping it simple is the way forward.

Francisco, the way to work out which vendors are WORKING for you is to test them *yourself*. Seriously, you are going to get lists that like your offer and those that it doesn't work so well with. Tracking and testing yourself is the way to go, then you know what works for YOU and WHICH VENDORS to buy your solos from.

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Yeh back to the topic I am opposed to like Heather cause on another site I got caught out cause had ratings for sales and if made none feedback given was a score of 0 which badly affected ratings hmm... especially if other levels were high but that was major let down and now is affecting sellers on what its called there REP... Have since changed to if no sales available in offer N/A but still think not a good rating point... (Horse had bolted in most cases though)

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I am totally OPPOSED to this.

1. Not everyone tracks these items.

2. Different pages have different optin rates. Not everyone has OTO's or is trying to make initial sales.

3. Some people have broken links, broken pages that I am not responsible for. If you made those mandatory then their irresponsible actions would be reflected in my feedback.

4. We are already pushing the "FEATURE BLOAT" envelope here on Udimi. How do I know, because I am starting to get many more support questions on "How do I buy?" "What does this mean" "Where are my clicks" then I ever used too.

Too many times businesses over complicate things and it is their demise. Let's continue to keep it simple around here.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out who the good sellers are by looking at the sheer quantity of feedback and the reading comments surrounding them.

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let me check this s#$t

worked fine

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lol This thing is not working! lol It seems like the send button does not do anything that is why I kept pressing it. Probably Randy had the same problem. :-)