Forum Solo ads Changes to Promoted Solo Deals

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No more queue for Promoted now? Also can't see position in promoted queue if we have a queued Promoted Deal?

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James
James on 15 Aug 2017 at 19:46

Uncle it sounds like you're moving Udimi towards a more modern marketplace that is in line with current successful marketplaces. I think everyone's experience here will be improved by those changes.

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I really hope so

848 / 36
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Uncle it sounds like you're moving Udimi towards a more modern marketplace that is in line with current successful marketplaces. I think everyone's experience here will be improved by those changes.

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At start it will be $75, but split test (based on many parameters, like: solo deals bump count / time on 1st position / views of a single solo deal / orders on single solo deal / etc etc) will tell the price for perfect balance.

Best, Uncle Dimitry.

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Uncle Dimitry
Uncle Dimitry on 15 Aug 2017 at 16:21

That is the question... If we set the price way too low, new threads will go down too fast. If the price is too high, there will be no profit for sellers and no threads at all. We will start with something in the middle between current Standard and Promoted price and then adjust up or down, dependin

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Ok thanks!

So it will be around $75-$100? Seems a bit high as there is a risk 2-3 other sellers will bump down the deal in a few hours, and in 12-24 hours it could be in 5th-10th spots, I think for that price a deal should be looking to stay in the top 3 spots for around 48-72 hours but may be hard to do that. I think starting off with around $47 and adjusting from there may work, but let's see how it works out...

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Fabian Tan
Fabian Tan on 15 Aug 2017 at 16:07

Thanks, I think this should be a good change, how much will a listing and bump cost? I think a sweet spot would be around $20-$30. $40+ may be a bit too high as the deals will be bumped down quicker. Some may also want to bump their deal daily so $20-$30 would be better for encouraging that. If it i

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That is the question...

If we set the price way too low, new threads will go down too fast.

If the price is too high, there will be no profit for sellers and no threads at all.

We will start with something in the middle between current Standard and Promoted price and then adjust up or down, depending on popularity and profitability for sellers.

Best, Uncle Dimitry.

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Uncle Dimitry
Uncle Dimitry on 15 Aug 2017 at 09:56

Here is what we are planning to do 1. In solo deals section all threads will have only regular thread type (no promoted) All threads will be equal. 2. All bumps will be instant. No queue, no limits, self balancing system like on WF. 3. Optionally any member can buy promoted status for any period of

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Thanks, I think this should be a good change, how much will a listing and bump cost? I think a sweet spot would be around $20-$30. $40+ may be a bit too high as the deals will be bumped down quicker. Some may also want to bump their deal daily so $20-$30 would be better for encouraging that. If it is $40+, then there should be a period of testing to see on average how quickly orders are bumped down from 1st to around 5th spot and below and how many orders sellers are getting for each bump. Maybe there should be some testing also if it's $20-$30 to see how quickly deals are bumped down. I think in the first few days it will be bumped down quicker so maybe a testing period of 1-2 weeks.


Also, how much will the new Promoted spot (that is for the search, home page, newsletter etc) cost? I think since the visibility for a Promoted spot will be halved (as it will no longer be tied to the Solo Deals section), maybe the cost should be around half of the current price, so maybe around $75? And perhaps limit to 10 Promoted spots for the Find Sellers section and keep it as a 7-day status? Or will there be options like 14 days or 30 days? One issue with having a longer period as an option is some of the spots will be booked up for a very long time.

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William McRea
William McRea on 15 Aug 2017 at 12:21

Ok just read...when does this go in to affect...and thanks for the advanced notice

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on 13th of September, when current queue is over.

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Uncle Dimitry
Uncle Dimitry on 15 Aug 2017 at 09:56

Here is what we are planning to do 1. In solo deals section all threads will have only regular thread type (no promoted) All threads will be equal. 2. All bumps will be instant. No queue, no limits, self balancing system like on WF. 3. Optionally any member can buy promoted status for any period of

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Ok just read...when does this go in to affect...and thanks for the advanced notice

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I bought a simple solo deal 4 Days ago....one order I rejected...but no other orders...hardly seems worth 45 buck...since the home page ads..the simple solo bump are basically a total waste of money....



this is why the frenzy to buy the premium ad space...since separating the premium and and putting them on the main landing page..it has made the solo deal way less effective

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Here is what we are planning to do

1. In solo deals section all threads will have only regular thread type (no promoted) All threads will be equal.

2. All bumps will be instant. No queue, no limits, self balancing system like on WF.

3. Optionally any member can buy promoted status for any period of time. Promoted status will just give more visibility: spot on the Home page, in newsletter, search, etc...

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I hope Uncle comes up with something too. I feel like they are treating Promoted Deals like any Banner Ad on any website, where they think its good to be sold out of it all the time. But Udimi isn't just another website, its a community of Solo buyers and Sellers, and at least 20 to 50 members here make a full time living, and now its going to be much harder as they have no way to schedule promoted deals. Having all of the sellers fight over the promoted spots seems very counter productive. It was nice to have the queue, you could just set your promoted deal and wait for your spot to come up. Its not like they are going to sell more promoted spots because now there is no queue, it was sold out for a month in advance already.

And if they're removing the queue because Support was having a difficult time sorting it out, well that's not a very good excuse. They should just improve the backend of the queue so they can manage it easier. It can't be that hard to manage a month queue of ~50 spots.

How about take the Promoted Deal, split it into 3 packs.
1. Promoted on Homepage for 3 days
2. Promoted on Find Sellers for 3 days
3. Promoted in Newsletter 1 time
Remove the 10 Promoted Deals spots on the Solo Deals Page, so that people will buy more regular Solo Deals.

That way it would make 30 different promoted spots to sell instead of 10 currently (10 spots for each pack). And it would give a boost in traffic to regular Solo Deals so that they would be an improved option.

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"The quickest one will get a chance to order a Promoted thread."

That's exactly what I feared you would say.

No queue... just a free for all ... that will never work.

There will be blood on the walls.

That doesn't sound like a better option. We can only trust Uncle comes up
with a practical solution before the middle of September

Thanks

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Lisa G
Lisa G on 13 Aug 2017 at 08:10

Please explain how to place a future solo promotion. I understand there is no more queueing of deals. Today: The "Solo Deals" page states promotions are full. The next available slot is not until 13th September. So what exactly will happen on September 13th when several solo sellers come online to p

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The quickest one will get a chance to order a Promoted thread.

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Please explain how to place a future solo promotion.

I understand there is no more queueing of deals.

Today:

The "Solo Deals" page states promotions are full.

The next available slot is not until 13th September.

So what exactly will happen on September 13th when
several solo sellers come online to place new Solo Deals ??

Thanks


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Maybe a 3rd option that splits the benefits of the promoted deal into two packages. Or maybe remove promoted deals from the solo deals page, so that regular deals are all that's on that page, and when you bump your regular deal it goes to #1 on the solo deals page. Still give promoted deals the 10 spots on the home page, and at the top of find sellers section. That would make regular deals matter.

Or make Promoted Deals rotate spots on each page load, and make promoted deals unlimited. So if you buy a promoted deal, you immediately go into the rotation.

Right now there is only about 1 new promoted spot available per day, to service all these sellers that want to buy promoted deals. It seems out of balance.