I just thought about how the tier 1 rate evolved over the years. I remember times a few years ago when non 100% tier 1 orders had like 70% tier 1. Nowadays people are sending like 90%+ tier 1 on those orders. To be honest with this tier 1 rate it isn't really an incentive for buyers to purchase 100% tier 1, as they receive 90%+ anyways.
So my suggestion would be to set a maximum tier 1 percentage of 80% on non 100% tier 1 orders. Everything above 80% should get filtered.
This gives buyers actually an incentive to buy 100% tier 1.
What do you guys think?
Hi all,
I just thought about how the tier 1 rate evolved over the years. I remember times a few years ago when non 100% tier 1 orders had like 70% tier 1. Nowadays people are sending like 90%+ tier 1 on those orders. To be honest with this tier 1 rate it isn't really an incentive for buyers to purchase 100% tier 1, as they receive 90%+ anyways.
So my suggestion would be to set a maximum tier 1 percentage of 80% on non 100% tier 1 orders. Everything above 80% should get filtered.
This gives buyers actually an incentive to buy 100% tier 1.
What do you guys think?
Posted 13 Aug 2019 at 10:55
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I would not filter. Some of us use only use tier 1 data to build our list. It cost a premium so that would not be fair...that said...you should not be able to sell the based item as 100% T1...if someone want wants 100% T1 they should pay Udimi’s premium.
I would not filter. Some of us use only use tier 1 data to build our list. It cost a premium so that would not be fair...that said...you should not be able to sell the based item as 100% T1...if someone want wants 100% T1 they should pay Udimi’s premium.
I would not filter. Some of us use only use tier 1 data to build our list. It cost a premium so that would not be fair...that said...you should not be able to sell the based item as 100% T1...if someone want wants 100% T1 they should pay Udimi’s premium.
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That's exactly the point.Since everyone is offering 100% T1 on base price,the premium,t1 filter has become pretty much usless
That's exactly the point.Since everyone is offering 100% T1 on base price,the premium,t1 filter has become pretty much usless
Posted 13 Aug 2019 at 17:19
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I would not filter. Some of us use only use tier 1 data to build our list. It cost a premium so that would not be fair...that said...you should not be able to sell the based item as 100% T1...if someone want wants 100% T1 they should pay Udimi’s premium.
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Yeah that is what I am suggesting. Right now most sellers in this industry send 90%+ tier 1 on base orders, so ordering 100% tier 1 is not necessary. I would like to have that changed, so there actually is an incentive again to order 100% tier 1.
Yeah that is what I am suggesting. Right now most sellers in this industry send 90%+ tier 1 on base orders, so ordering 100% tier 1 is not necessary. I would like to have that changed, so there actually is an incentive again to order 100% tier 1.
Posted 13 Aug 2019 at 18:52
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Maybe I didn't explain it clear enough. Let's say I am a buyer and purchase traffic from seller xyz. I know that seller xyz will send me 90%+ tier 1 on my base price, so why should I pay more for 100% tier 1? It's only a small difference between 90% and 100% tier.
Therefore my suggestion is to set a maximum tier 1 rate of 80% for the base price orders. This way me as a buyer will probably purchase premium with 100% tier 1, as I now know that my maximum tier 1 rate on normal orders will be 80%.
I hope I made the point clear :-)
Maybe I didn't explain it clear enough. Let's say I am a buyer and purchase traffic from seller xyz. I know that seller xyz will send me 90%+ tier 1 on my base price, so why should I pay more for 100% tier 1? It's only a small difference between 90% and 100% tier.
Therefore my suggestion is to set a maximum tier 1 rate of 80% for the base price orders. This way me as a buyer will probably purchase premium with 100% tier 1, as I now know that my maximum tier 1 rate on normal orders will be 80%.
I hope I made the point clear :-)
Posted 13 Aug 2019 at 19:02
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Yeah that is what I am suggesting. Right now most sellers in this industry send 90%+ tier 1 on base orders, so ordering 100% tier 1 is not necessary. I would like to have that changed, so there actually is an incentive again to order 100% tier 1.
I think 80% is too low, a T1 filter is 10% extra, I usually average my orders around 90% T1, which means if you want 10% more T1, you pay ~10% more. So 85 to 90% sounds more reasonable for that to me.
I think 80% is too low, a T1 filter is 10% extra, I usually average my orders around 90% T1, which means if you want 10% more T1, you pay ~10% more. So 85 to 90% sounds more reasonable for that to me.
Yes 100% T1 option is rarely nowadays because most sellers have high t1... But enforcing 80% max will not work and will be unfair to some sellers that have a high T1 list as their over 80% t1 is going to be filtered.
ex: my lists are almost 97% T1 on average so i have no choice but to send high T1, how am i going to fill the 20% none T1 gap? therefore this wont work.
on the other hand, enforcing a 80% min on orders is a much better idea (part of the Base Filter), means better traffic and less filtering and less crap traffic going through udimi.
Cheers
Hey Daniel,
Yes 100% T1 option is rarely nowadays because most sellers have high t1... But enforcing 80% max will not work and will be unfair to some sellers that have a high T1 list as their over 80% t1 is going to be filtered.
ex: my lists are almost 97% T1 on average so i have no choice but to send high T1, how am i going to fill the 20% none T1 gap? therefore this wont work.
on the other hand, enforcing a 80% min on orders is a much better idea (part of the Base Filter), means better traffic and less filtering and less crap traffic going through udimi.
Hi all,
I just thought about how the tier 1 rate evolved over the years. I remember times a few years ago when non 100% tier 1 orders had like 70% tier 1. Nowadays people are sending like 90%+ tier 1 on those orders. To be honest with this tier 1 rate it isn't really an incentive for buyers to purchase 100% tier 1, as they receive 90%+ anyways.
So my suggestion would be to set a maximum tier 1 percentage of 80% on non 100% tier 1 orders. Everything above 80% should get filtered.
This gives buyers actually an incentive to buy 100% tier 1.
What do you guys think?
I just thought about how the tier 1 rate evolved over the years. I remember times a few years ago when non 100% tier 1 orders had like 70% tier 1. Nowadays people are sending like 90%+ tier 1 on those orders. To be honest with this tier 1 rate it isn't really an incentive for buyers to purchase 100% tier 1, as they receive 90%+ anyways.
So my suggestion would be to set a maximum tier 1 percentage of 80% on non 100% tier 1 orders. Everything above 80% should get filtered.
This gives buyers actually an incentive to buy 100% tier 1.
What do you guys think?
I would not filter. Some of us use only use tier 1 data to build our list. It cost a premium so that would not be fair...that said...you should not be able to sell the based item as 100% T1...if someone want wants 100% T1 they should pay Udimi’s premium.
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I like this idea and support it.
That's exactly the point.Since everyone is offering 100% T1 on base price,the premium,t1 filter has become pretty much usless
Yeah that is what I am suggesting. Right now most sellers in this industry send 90%+ tier 1 on base orders, so ordering 100% tier 1 is not necessary. I would like to have that changed, so there actually is an incentive again to order 100% tier 1.
Maybe I didn't explain it clear enough. Let's say I am a buyer and purchase traffic from seller xyz. I know that seller xyz will send me 90%+ tier 1 on my base price, so why should I pay more for 100% tier 1? It's only a small difference between 90% and 100% tier.
Therefore my suggestion is to set a maximum tier 1 rate of 80% for the base price orders. This way me as a buyer will probably purchase premium with 100% tier 1, as I now know that my maximum tier 1 rate on normal orders will be 80%.
I hope I made the point clear :-)
Therefore my suggestion is to set a maximum tier 1 rate of 80% for the base price orders. This way me as a buyer will probably purchase premium with 100% tier 1, as I now know that my maximum tier 1 rate on normal orders will be 80%.
I hope I made the point clear :-)
Okay that makes sense to me and I support
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I think 80% is too low, a T1 filter is 10% extra, I usually average my orders around 90% T1, which means if you want 10% more T1, you pay ~10% more. So 85 to 90% sounds more reasonable for that to me.
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Hey Daniel,
Yes 100% T1 option is rarely nowadays because most sellers have high t1... But enforcing 80% max will not work and will be unfair to some sellers that have a high T1 list as their over 80% t1 is going to be filtered.
ex: my lists are almost 97% T1 on average so i have no choice but to send high T1, how am i going to fill the 20% none T1 gap? therefore this wont work.
on the other hand, enforcing a 80% min on orders is a much better idea (part of the Base Filter), means better traffic and less filtering and less crap traffic going through udimi.
Cheers
Yes 100% T1 option is rarely nowadays because most sellers have high t1... But enforcing 80% max will not work and will be unfair to some sellers that have a high T1 list as their over 80% t1 is going to be filtered.
ex: my lists are almost 97% T1 on average so i have no choice but to send high T1, how am i going to fill the 20% none T1 gap? therefore this wont work.
on the other hand, enforcing a 80% min on orders is a much better idea (part of the Base Filter), means better traffic and less filtering and less crap traffic going through udimi.
Cheers
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