Almost all mobile clicks is not natural traffic
Almost all mobile clicks is not natural traffic
Kevin Hall
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When I get traffic from other sources, the desktop/mobile ratio always looks natural. I didn't bother to select no mobile because I expect a reasonable ratio. But instead I get almost 100% mobile. Natural traffic doesn't work that way, and this looks fishy. Buyers also are mostly on desktop (I know my stats). When combined with the fact that hardly any of these new 'subscribers' are even opening my emails after opting in ever again, I smell kippers. I've done email marketing before an I never get these sorts of stats.

Posted 3 May 2020 at 18:24
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Glenn Fedoruk
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Majority of traffic is now Mobile and so therefore leads collected from sellers are more mobile . Simple and no skullduggery , To find majority desktop is very difficult now


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Posted 3 May 2020 at 18:55
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Kevin Hall
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Of the whole internet combined (like checking your Facebook or Whatsapp), mobile accounts for only about 53% of the whole internet as of 2019. Traffic certainly is not almost 100% mobile and unresponsive after taking an action of interest.

I've been tracking website stats for many years. This is not true.

Sources: https://www.broadbandsearch.net/blog/mobile-desktop-internet-usage-statistics

Posted 3 May 2020 at 19:08
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Kujtim Guga
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Mobile and unresponsive are 2 different things.

Mobile traffic is the same responsive as any other source.If you got unresponsive traffic, you probably got what you paid for..

Posted 3 May 2020 at 19:10
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Kevin Hall
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Kujtim Guga on 03 May 2020 at 19:10
Mobile and unresponsive are 2 different things.

Mobile traffic is the same responsive as any other source.If you got unresponsive traffic, you probably got what you paid for..

Agreed mobile and unresponsive are two different things, but 100% mobile is not realistic or natural internet traffic.

Only 61% of email opens in USA occurred on mobile by 2019.

Yet solo ads are nearly 100% mobile. It doesn't look legit.

https://techjury.net/stats-about/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/

Posted 3 May 2020 at 19:36
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Kujtim Guga
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Kevin Hall on 03 May 2020 at 19:36
Agreed mobile and unresponsive are two different things, but 100% mobile is not realistic or natural internet traffic.

Only 61% of email opens in USA occurred on mobile by 2019.

Yet solo ads are nearly 100% mobile. It doesn't look legit.

https://techjury.net/stats-about/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/

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Kevin, this is my stats this year so far. Majority of people have a smart phone in T1 countries these days.

Smart phones have instant notifications,so when they receive an email,they open it instantly most of the time (I get 60% of my clicks within the 1st hour of sending an email).

There could be many reasons why people open mostly from a mobile phone but I never bothered searching for reasons because mobile traffic works just as well.

Posted 3 May 2020 at 20:05
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Kujtim Guga
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Kevin Hall on 03 May 2020 at 19:36
https://techjury.net/stats-about/mobile-vs-desktop-usage/

My stats are in line with the projections from this study.

"Global mobile data traffic is projected to increase nearly 3x between 2018-2021."


Assuming the average was 50% in 2018, 85% in 2020 is within the projected range..

Posted 3 May 2020 at 20:09
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Kevin Hall
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Kujtim Guga on 03 May 2020 at 20:05
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Kevin, this is my stats this year so far. Majority of people have a smart phone in T1 countries these days.

Smart phones have instant notifications,so when they receive an email,they open it instantly most of the time (I get 60% of my clicks within the 1st hour of sending an email).

There could be many reasons why people open mostly from a mobile phone but I never bothered searching for reasons because mobile traffic works just as well.

I'm going to have another go, and I may select no mobile. I'd rather pay extra for better engaged users.


Online shopping on mobile is at 15%, tablets at 10% while on desktop is 63% in 2019.


Most of my own buyers are on desktop, very few of them show as on a mobile buying after reading a long sales letter.


I know getting instant sales after optin is not the main goal, but I bet they're paying more attention as a whole on desktop, or they just use mobiles less. I don't use a mobile at all in my life.

Posted 3 May 2020 at 20:25
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Randy Sult
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What are you selling/promoting? I just don't get why anyone would cut out well over 50% of the market. No mobile orders mystify me. I never recommend it and didn't even offer it at first but many people ask for it. So I said if I can make an extra 5c a click I guess why not. I still DO NOT recommend it.

So I just wanted to ask is it because of the product/service you promote? Or do you honestly believe that someone using a desktop computer is more likely to buy/signup than someone using a mobile device?

Posted 3 May 2020 at 20:50
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Kevin Hall
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Randy Sult on 03 May 2020 at 20:50
What are you selling/promoting? I just don't get why anyone would cut out well over 50% of the market. No mobile orders mystify me. I never recommend it and didn't even offer it at first but many people ask for it. So I said if I can make an extra 5c a click I guess why not. I still DO NOT recommend it.

So I just wanted to ask is it because of the product/service you promote? Or do you honestly believe that someone using a desktop computer is more likely to buy/signup than someone using a mobile device?

I think someone using a desktop computer is more engaged, more likely to read your copy more carefully, is more likely to remember they subscribed to you, and is more likely to use desktops to open future emails and thus is more likely to buy.

Posted 3 May 2020 at 21:28
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Kevin Hall
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After ordering a desktop only solo, I can report that I'm getting between 2-3 times as much engagement with my followup emails than a normal/mobile solo. Yes I used a different seller this time but it's more likely that it is the users being on a desktop that makes them more engaged than those on mobile.

It's quite logical really. A user might opt in to your offer while out in public with all sorts of distractions around them, including the phone they're beeping a new Whatsapp message or whatever. But on desktop, users are in working mode sat in a working environment. It is entirely more committed. Plus they may use desktops more than mobile the rest of the time too.

Sellers should either cease including mobile clicks or just make them at discounted prices with desktop solos being the normal price. There is a definite gap in the market here for budding solo ad sellers.

Posted 6 May 2020 at 22:13
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Glenn Fedoruk
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Kevin Hall on 06 May 2020 at 22:13
After ordering a desktop only solo, I can report that I'm getting between 2-3 times as much engagement with my followup emails than a normal/mobile solo. Yes I used a different seller this time but it's more likely that it is the users being on a desktop that makes them more engaged than those on mobile.

It's quite logical really. A user might opt in to your offer while out in public with all sorts of distractions around them, including the phone they're beeping a new Whatsapp message or whatever. But on desktop, users are in working mode sat in a working environment. It is entirely more committed. Plus they may use desktops more than mobile the rest of the time too.

Sellers should either cease including mobile clicks or just make them at discounted prices with desktop solos being the normal price. There is a definite gap in the market here for budding solo ad sellers.

So what you are saying then is that 0.40 is too high? Well this i can tell you any less and no point as there is no profit


Udimi #1 seller 2020 11th straight Months ! - 55% Got Sales
Posted 7 May 2020 at 05:19
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Kevin Hall
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I can appreciate the sellers' situation. But speaking as a buyer I've seen solo ads drop in quality and prices remain the same since 4 years ago when I last did this. This drop in quality is due to an increase mobile traffic being less engaged. Even if sellers kept the usual price but had "minimum 80% desktop" commitments like they do with "90% Tier 1" on their ads then that would keep quality high in a competitive marketplace. The first sellers to adopt this sort of service will be the ones who sweep up.

Posted 7 May 2020 at 14:08
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Thomas Freeman
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Dear Kevin,


i suggest to look for newest data... because on average 80+% opens their emails on smartphones.


think. do the work. think again. cut. think. cut. do.

" AGAIN....55 % optin and 2 sales - 100 click order" - Perri
Posted 21 May 2020 at 21:16
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Coach
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I'm with you Kevin,

I'm promoting a new funnel, page builder and I don't want anything to do with mobile traffic.

I don't have any stats, I just know when I'm actually doing work online, it ain''t on my phone.

New Funnel, Page Builder is now free for life. Anyone interested can message me.
Posted 28 May 2020 at 06:44
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Darren
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I think mobile traffic is great to be honest for views but I wouldn't say it's wroth the money.

It's worth it for the people selling it to us acting like it matters

because it's money going to them for sure.

But as a buyer desktop traffic is more consistent.

I had my first £20,000 using only desktop traffic.

I didn't make nothing with mobile traffic.

So i'm only speaking from experience but then again

what works for someone else might not work for you.


Just do what works for you, you don't to listen to anyone else.


Do what works for you.

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This was my first success back then when i started using desktop traffic.


I prefer using desktop traffic but mobile traffic is good for views. if youre trying to be famous go for mobile traffic it's much consistent for that.image

Posted 28 May 2020 at 13:31
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